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Quick Mill Rubino vs. ECM Classika PID


How The Quick Mill Rubino Compares To The ECM Classika PID

Disclaimer - the Quick Mill Rubino is exclusive to Cliff & Pebble in the United States.

Both are well price, good looking, draped in stainless steel. But which one is better for you? Do you really need PID temperature control? What is it, anyway? One doesn't have a hot water spout - should this matter to me? We answer all your questions below. 

ECM Classika PID vs. Quick Mill Rubino



Let's Get Technical

  ECM Classika PID Quick Mill Rubino
Price ($ USD) from 1,449  $1,575
Made In Germany Italy
Height 15.75 inches

14.4 inches

Width 9.84 inches 10.8 inches
Depth 17.75 inches 17.7 inches
Weight 46 pounds 44 pounds
Material Stainless Steel Stainless Steel
Drip Tray Stainless Steel Stainless Steel
Plumbable No No
Capacity 3 liters 3 liters
Material Plastic Plastic
Low Water Sensor Yes Yes
Design Single Boiler Heat Exchanger
Material Stainless Steel Copper
Capacity 0.75 liters 1.8 liters
Insulated Yes Yes
Heating Element 1200 W 1500 W
Automatic Fill  Yes Yes
Type Vibratory Vibratory
Recommended Brew Pressure 9 bars  9 bars
Adjustable No Yes (thermostat)
PID Temperature Control
Equipped? Yes No
Steam Pressure Gauge No Yes
Boiler Pressure Gauge Yes No
Equipped? Yes No

Heat Exchanger (Rubino) vs. Non-Heat Exchanger (ECM)

Perhaps the biggest difference between these two is the fact that one (Rubino) is a heat exchanger while the other (ECM) is not. 

What is a heat exchanger, you ask? 

A HX espresso machine refers to the design of the boiler. HX boilers allow that boiler to share heat between the brewing and steaming functions allowing you to perform both functions at the same time. So, on a HX like the Rubino you can brew shots of espresso and steam milk simultaneously saving yourself time when creating those lattes or cappuccinos. 

Now, this isn't always something to pay attention to. For example, if you're someone who won't be making drinks with milk and solely prefer straight shots of espresso - a HX isn't necessary. But, if you plan on steaming milk, a HX boiler is a massive upgrade. 

Boiler Material

Edge to ECM here with the stainless steel boiler vs. copper of the Rubino. 

It should be noted that Quick Mill does use T.E.A. coating on all their boilers to reduce leaching (breakdown of materials) severely expanding the lifespan of their boilers. 

Other than the above, stainless steel boilers have proven to last longer, and hold heat more efficiently than copper. 

Both boiler are insulated to keep the noise level down.

The Rubino, however, has a much larger boiler (more than 2x the ECM). This means less time refilling. 

PID Temperature Control

What is PID?

PID allows you to control the temperature in the boiler with the simple touch of a button. If you want to experiment with temperatures and how it effects certain beans, PID is something you want. If you find yourself never using it - don't pay attention to whether or not a machine has PID. 

We've found people spend way too much time focusing on PID. I've personally had a machine with it and never adjusted it once. Not one single time. Still, it is nice to have it there and that's the way to think about it. It's a conveniency. Not a necessity. As long as you give the Rubino sufficient time to heat up, PID is not needed.

Hot Water Spout

If you're an Americano or tea lover, scratch the ECM Classika PID off your list. It does not have a hot water spout. The Rubino, on the other hand, does. 

Not a huge deal and it actually makes the ECM dimensions slimmer than the Rubino (which is already a fairly compact espresso machine).